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06-23-2007, 07:59 PM	#1
lastfreeman Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 3	WTF is Chaos Computer Club According to wikipedia: "The Chaos Computer Club (CCC) is one of the biggest and most influential hacker organisations." Why the hell does it keep getting blocked on pg2? IP is 217.13.206.147 port 6969. It wont leave me alone no matter what I d/l and its showing up about as much as safenet


06-23-2007, 08:08 PM	#2
*fakhir* Administrator Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: New York Country: Posts: 4,392	Re: WTF is Chaos Computer Club i would do some virus, spyware, rootkit scans information on port 6969 suggests that it is used for trojans and viruses __________________ Email: fakhir@iblocklist.com AIM: chrisfakhir MSN: fakhir@gmail.com "Any darn fool can make something complex; it takes a genius to make something simple." -Albert Einstein "The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings; the inherent virtue of socialism is the equal sharing of miseries." -Winston Churchill "You cannot bring about prosperity by discouraging thrift. You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong. You cannot help the wage earner by pulling down the wage payer. You cannot further the brotherhood of man encouraging class hatred. You cannot help the poor by destroying the rich. You cannot keep out of trouble by spending more than you earn. You cannot build character and courage by taking away man’s initiative and independence. You cannot help men permanently by doing for them what they could and should do for themselves." -Abraham Lincoln


06-24-2007, 09:40 PM	#3
lastfreeman Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 3	Re: WTF is Chaos Computer Club Clean... and clean.. It only seems to be active whenever I torrent.


06-25-2007, 11:44 AM	#4
*fox* Infringement Specialist Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: In your momma's house. Country: Posts: 2,822	Re: WTF is Chaos Computer Club my advise is to ignore it. sometimes the names are misleading. let it block, blocks are good. here is my search results. Search results for: 217.13.206.147 OrgName: RIPE Network Coordination Centre OrgID: RIPE Address: P.O. Box 10096 City: Amsterdam StateProv: PostalCode: 1001EB Country: NL ReferralServer: whois://whois.ripe.net:43 NetRange: 217.0.0.0 - 217.255.255.255 CIDR: 217.0.0.0/8 NetName: 217-RIPE NetHandle: NET-217-0-0-0-1 Parent: NetType: Allocated to RIPE NCC NameServer: NS-PRI.RIPE.NET NameServer: NS3.NIC.FR NameServer: SUNIC.SUNET.SE NameServer: NS-EXT.ISC.ORG NameServer: SEC1.APNIC.NET NameServer: SEC3.APNIC.NET NameServer: TINNIE.ARIN.NET Comment: These addresses have been further assigned to users in Comment: the RIPE NCC region. Contact information can be found in Comment: the RIPE database at http://www.ripe.net/whois RegDate: 2000-06-05 Updated: 2005-07-27 fox

06-25-2007, 08:46 PM

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Re: WTF is Chaos Computer Club

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http://www.ripe.net/whois

I think that be the one to use for this IP, I get "Speedbone Internet & Connectivity GmbH" from Gemany, 217.13.206.0 - 217.13.206.255 when using it.
PG shows it blocked as same when I ping 217.13.206.147, I think it's something to do with merging of lists/ranges why it displays as another name in PG.

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It only seems to be active whenever I torrent.

If it's outgoing (you as the source) traffic blocked it's probably your torrent client trying to connect to someone from within that IP range, if it's incoming they are trying to connect to you.
Like Fox said, ignore it, it's blocked


06-25-2007, 08:55 PM	#6
lastfreeman Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 3	Re: WTF is Chaos Computer Club Ahh ok. Thank you fox, shanu, fakhir.


07-16-2007, 08:50 AM	#7
catgofire Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 1	Re: WTF is Chaos Computer Club 217.13.206.147 is an open tracker $ dig denis.stalker.h3q.com ; <<>> DiG 9.3.4 <<>> denis.stalker.h3q.com ;; global options: printcmd ;; Got answer: ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 7035 ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0 ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;denis.stalker.h3q.com. IN A ;; ANSWER SECTION: denis.stalker.h3q.com. 28 IN A 217.13.206.147 Blog here: http://opentracker.blog.h3q.com/ Probably shouldn't be on the block list. It's an open tracker who doesn't like anti-p2p people... so it's most likely safe to allow access to it. 6969 is just the announce port, not something for trojans/viruses. Your computer needs to access 217.13.206.147:6969 to find peers to connect to.

07-18-2007, 05:05 AM

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Re: WTF is Chaos Computer Club

A member at Bluetack named badgerz has posted in the Invalid IP Section Forum there asking that Chaos Computer Club - 217.13.206.141-217.13.206.161 be unblocked.

I feel that it is appropriate to post the link to this thread so that our members are more aware of what CCC actually is. The following is monk's (Global Mod, IP Master at BT) answer to the request to have this tracker unblocked. I think his reply will clear up any confusion as to what Chaos Computer Club is/does and why it's in the P2P/Level1 list.

Use this information to decided whether or not you want to "allow" that range of IPs in your PG2.

http://www.bluetack.co.uk/forums/ind...=0&#entry82472

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Originally Posted by monk, Global Mod, IP Master at BT

That tracker is the primary reason for that range being on level 1 and it's not going to be unblocked. There were huge numbers of fakes on that tracker for over 6 months before that open tracker blog site first appeared. From what we've seen, the people involved with that tracker are working with MediaDefender - It is their fakes that have appeared consistently on that tracker.

Additionally, the Chaos Computer Club had a 2nd tracker putting out large numbers of fakes last year, bittorrent.dyndns.org. This tracker was actually in one of the ranges belonging to the CCC for a long time, then it moved to an Alice DSL range, but is not currently active.

And then there's this site that was found, belonging to a CCC member who is involved with the domain for that tracker, who links to the MPAA's website, along with other links to CCC things and a business he's involved with:

http://outpost.h3q.com/

And before any of this with the trackers last year, we blocked a CCC range for abusing the downloading of our lists. Many hundreds, if not thousands, of DLs a day were happening from an IP belonging to this group.

Then there's the consideration of what the CCC is:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaos_Computer_Club

We are primarily concerned with P2P protection here, but we do block other things that are a threat to people, such as malware, viruses and hackers. The CCC certainly qualifies as the latter.

I'm sure the majority of the CCC members are good, decent people, like anyone else you would meet, but I am certain that there are people who are involved with this organization which are a threat to filesharers.


08-14-2007, 03:37 PM	#9
Dewercs Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Country: Posts: 1	Re: WTF is Chaos Computer Club Additionally if any of you are running TOR (The Onion Router) you should know CCC runs at least 2 TOR servers. It will show up in your PG2 logs even if your not running anything through TOR, because it creates new nodes every so often that may include CCC's server(s). -Dewercs Last edited by Dewercs : 08-14-2007 at 03:57 PM.


09-18-2007, 07:46 AM	#10
Andreas (CCC) Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 9	Re: WTF is Chaos Computer Club Check the Bluetack URL again for our answer. Short version: the accusations that the CCC is anti-p2p and malicious is ridiculous, and we're highly offended by it. Plus, OpenTracker isn't even a CCC project or running from a CCC network. See also http://opentracker.blog.h3q.com/?p=27 for the OpenTracker people's angle on it. It's very sad to see that the blocklists are obviously run by a single individual with paranoid tendencies and no room for reason.

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